Madhavan Ramanujam

Madhavan Ramanujam is the world’s foremost expert on pricing and monetization strategy. As managing partner at Simon-Kucher, he helped over 250 companies, including 30 unicorns, architect their pricing strategies. He’s the author of the definitive book on pricing, Monetizing Innovation. Now he’s back with a sequel, Scaling Innovation, which reveals how to build enduring businesses by dominating both market share and wallet share. He recently left Simon-Kucher to launch his own fund, 49 Palms, focused on helping early-stage AI companies.

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AI & Technology Skills

AI shifts the value proposition from providing a tool (access) to providing the result (work), requiring a fundamental change in pricing models.

"AI pricing is very different from the previous vintage of companies... we have moved from software being a pay for access to now you're paying for work delivered. So the monetization model's become ke..."
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AI strategy should focus on increasing product autonomy and building features that explicitly track and display value attribution.

"What that would mean is, how do I build functionality in the products to actually show attribution, how do I build more agentic workforces to take the human out of the loop and be more autonomous, and..."
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Growth Skills

Price should be viewed as a metric for value and customer desire rather than just a dollar figure.

"When we think about price, we think about it as a measure. Like liter is a measure of volume, price is a measure of value. And when you think of it this way, it really stands for, do people actually w..."
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Pricing should ideally sit within the product organization because it informs product design and value creation.

"If we truly believe that we need to build products that are simply products that customers need, they love, they value, they're willing to pay for, it is a product function, because you need to be abl..."
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Pricing conversations are inevitable; having them early allows for product pivots and risk reduction.

"The folks that first round summarized this in four words... price before product, period. Because frankly, Lenny, as an entrepreneur, a company, you actually don't have a choice whether you'll have a..."
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Effective segmentation is based on needs and value rather than just demographics or personas.

"Segmentation needs to be based on what customers need, what they value, and what are they willing to pay for... You need to be able to productize to segments. If you're trying to build a product and t..."
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Companies must choose and execute one of three core pricing strategies: Skimming (premium), Penetration (volume), or Maximization (balanced).

"There's literally only three types of pricing strategies... skimming strategy... penetration... and the third one is just maximization."
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Bundles should be composed of high-value 'leaders' and supporting 'fillers,' while avoiding 'killers' that decrease the bundle's overall value.

"The quick framework to think about packaging, bundling, we call it the leaders, fillers and killers, exercise of framework."
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The pricing model (the unit of value) often dictates success more than the specific price point.

"How you charge is way more important than how much you charge."
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Pricing should account for psychological biases and irrational decision-making patterns.

"Behavioral pricing basically is tapping into the irrational modes of our decision making and not just rational."
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In a downturn, preserve price integrity by de-featuring products rather than simply discounting.

"Before you price discount, think about what value can you exchange to actually justify that price discount. So you are taking value away in a de-featured product and hence you can discount."
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AI companies must monetize early to avoid anchoring customers to low prices that don't reflect the high value of automated labor.

"The winners in AI will need to master monetization from day one. If you're bringing a lot of value to the table and you start at training your customers to expect $20 a month and you anchored yourself..."
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Sustainable growth requires balancing customer acquisition (market share) with maximizing revenue per customer (wallet share).

"If you want to build an enduring business, you need to be able to architect towards profitable growth. What that means is you need to be able to master two engines: market share and wallet share."
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Early-stage pricing must be simple enough for customers to explain it back to you and should tell a clear value story.

"In your early days it is by far more important to have pricing that is really simple and it's not creating too much friction in the sales conversation. I mean, the asset test that you probably should..."
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The most powerful pricing model for AI is outcome-based, where high attribution of value meets high autonomy of the product.

"The quadrant that you really want to be in is the golden quadrant, which is the top-right one. That's the outcome-based pricing model where you have great autonomy and great attribution. And here is w..."
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Pricing power is the ultimate test of a business's health, and companies should be able to implement regular price increases without fear.

"The true definition of a company is a pricing power. And if you have a prayer session for doing a 10% price increase, you have a terrible business. So you have to be able to increase prices over a bit..."
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The most effective way to manage churn is through 'top-of-funnel' retention—acquiring the specific customer segments that naturally have higher stickiness.

"To stop churn, you need to attract customers who won't leave. That sounds counterintuitive, but that's the best way to actually stop churn... The way to stop churn is to start acquiring customers who..."
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Marketing Skills

Value communication must focus on the outcomes (benefits) rather than the technical components (features).

"What you build as a product person is features. What people actually get out of it is the benefits... If you pitch features, you're not talking value. And if you're not talking value, no one is going..."
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Effective positioning reframes the price in the context of the specific value or time saved for the user.

"Superhuman... came up with a $30 price point per month... the way they kind of told the story was that you pay a dollar a day for actually getting four hours of productivity back in the week, and then..."
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Product Management Skills

Willingness to pay is the ultimate filter for roadmap prioritization.

"Literally, for your product folks, the number one lesson... you cannot prioritize a product roadmap without having a willingness to pay conversation. If you're just prioritizing based on what you thin..."
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Direct questions about price yield poor data; relative and indirect questions are more effective.

"If you go and ask someone, 'How much should I charge for this product?' You're actually going to get garbage back... People are absolutely meaningless, relatively super smart."
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MaxDiff (Most/Least) surveys are superior to simple ranking for identifying value drivers.

"Identify the most important for you, and the least important... If you do this a few times, you will be able to prioritize the entire feature set in a relative fashion, and truly understand what drive..."
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Sales & GTM Skills

Proof of Concepts (POCs) should be treated as collaborative exercises to build a business case and ROI model, not just technical tests.

"The POC should be framed as the entire goal of the POC is to create a business case, period, full stop. It is not to demonstrate product functionality fit within your customer environment's ability to..."
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ROI models are only effective if the customer validates the underlying assumptions and inputs during the sales process.

"The right way to think about an ROI model is to actually co-create it with your customers from day one, which means agree and validate on the assumptions and the inputs... If you have done that proces..."
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